I Can’t Get No Satisfaction: Ryan LeVanseler Of Seeds to Dreams On Why So Many Of Us Are Feeling Unsatisfied & What We Can Do About It
An Interview With Drew Gerber
Surround yourself with people that love you and offer support because not everyone has your best interest in their heart. Don’t entertain jealousy, judgment, or any similar energy. You won’t make it very far if all the other crabs are trying to pull you back down into the bucket. My family tried everything to sabotage my success because I was a constant reminder that they could do better.
From an objective standpoint, we are living in an unprecedented era of abundance. Yet so many of us are feeling unsatisfied. Why are we seemingly so insatiable? What is going on inside of us that is making us feel unsatisfied? What is the brain chemistry that makes us feel this way? Is our brain wired for endless insatiable consumption? What can we do about it? In this interview series, we are talking to credentialed experts such as psychologists, psychiatrists, therapists, brain science experts, as well as spiritual and religious leaders, and mind-body-spirit coaches, to address why so many of us are feeling unsatisfied & what we can do about it.
As a part of this series, I had the distinct pleasure of interviewing Ryan LeVanseler.
Fueled by passion and purpose, Ryan was able to climb from the depths of depression and pursue a fulfilling life. At 30 years old, he is a survivor who shares his personal experience and wisdom on social media, helping others conquer their internal chaos so they can enjoy life once again. Growing up, he was surrounded by people who were extremely desperate for satisfaction; they were willing to sacrifice everything, including love and family. He knows how dark the journey can get and he wants to help light your path. TikTok.com/@seedstodreams
Thank you so much for joining us in this interview series! Before we dive in, our readers would love to know how you got from “there to here.” Inspire us with your backstory!
I was born in Michigan, during summer of 1992. My dad was a mechanic and my mom ran her own cleaning company. We lived on a small farm for the first few years of my life before moving to a dead-end dirt road named Cash street. The street name is incredibly ironic because they spent most of their time chasing money only to end up drowning in debt and alcohol. It’s even symbolic in a way because they believed money would satisfy their thirst for more, but they eventually realized the only option left was to turn around and take another road. I lived on Cash street until I was 15, when I finally decided I was tired of all the abuse. I packed my things and spent the next few years bouncing around looking for stability while I tried to focus on my education. Fortunately, I managed to graduate and walk with my class before attending college and obtaining my associates degree in computer science. This led to a job in the IT field for over 10 years, but I realized that career wasn’t for me. I then began my own venture which has led me to this interview today.
What lessons would you share with yourself if you had the opportunity to meet your younger self?
Everyone sees the world from a different perspective and wisdom is discovered through experience. I can share knowledge, but understanding will unfold naturally. I’ve learned it’s best to let others steer while you stand near; ready to help them correct the wheel if necessary. My younger self refused help because he was stubborn, didn’t feel worthy, and he thought he knew all the answers. He spent his years fighting, feeling unsatisfied, and thinking there was nothing more to life. I would approach him slowly and just sit in the moment, offering my presence. I would let him open up to me while I listen with compassion and love. I would lead by example, showing him what’s possible through my actions. After everything, I’ve realized that’s all he ever truly desired. It wasn’t the material items or the superficial relationships. He just wanted a safe space to express himself freely without fear taking over. He didn’t know who he was or what he really wanted because he never had a chance to breathe and explore.
None of us are able to experience success without support along the way. Is there a particular person for whom you are grateful because of the support they gave you to grow you from “there to here?” Can you share that story and why you are grateful for them?
I’m grateful for everyone who I’ve crossed paths with, even if only for a moment. Every interaction and experience has led me to where I am now. I’m grateful for the unseen force that gives us life and lifts us up when we’re down, making all of this possible. I’m even grateful for my mom and dad, despite our history. Specifically, I want to thank my sisters for watching over me while our parents were yelling incoherently, beating on each other, and too drunk to function. Through all the chaos, they were still there to take me on adventures. I’m sure they were tired of the Lion King, but we still went to the theater. I also want to thank my former boss Marc for his generosity and believing in me, even when I didn’t believe in myself. I was fresh out of high school and just starting college when I applied to his job posting online for computer related work. I was 18, my parents were recently divorced and not on speaking terms, our house was foreclosed so I didn’t have anywhere to go, and the list goes on. I had no money, no experience, no support, and I was moving to one of the worst areas in the state. Marc saw my potential and chose to help me, at his own expense. Without his direct support for 10 years, I wouldn’t be the man I am today and I’d still be stuck in Detroit. Another beautiful soul I want to thank is my partner Leslie, for she is more than I can put into words. Over the last 2 years, we’ve developed a bond greater than I’ve ever dreamed was possible. With her, I’ve been able to follow my heart and focus on my real calling without any external distractions getting in the way. Finally, I want to thank all the animals I’ve shared time and love with over the years: Coco, Sandy, Bandit, Ducky, Hairball, Scooter, Bella, Ollie, and Luna. They were the light that helped me see when everything got dark. I wouldn’t be here writing this for you to read if it weren’t for everyone mentioned above.
Are you working on any exciting new projects now? How do you think it might help people?
I am and I’m beyond happy to say that it’s already helping millions. “Seeds to Dreams” started as a crazy idea that came to me while I was sleeping, but has since evolved into something much greater. The mission is to change the world by helping others reconnect with their true power so they can break free from old limitations and experience the life they’ve always dreamed of. The overall concept is that every dream starts from a single seed, or thought. Just like a garden, we can choose what we want to grow and harvest. With patience, love, and dedication, it becomes reality. The project began on Instagram where I would share my passion for plant medicine, nature, and fitness. Over time, momentum increased and I expanded to other platforms such as TikTok. After a year of sharing my heart and message, I’ve reached over 20 million people around the globe, gained 170,000 followers, and opportunities like this interview keep pouring in. I’m excited for what’s to come.
Ok, thank you for sharing your inspired life. Let’s now talk about feeling “unsatisfied”. In the Western world, humans typically have their shelter, food, and survival needs met. What has led to us feeling we aren’t enough and don’t have enough? What is the wiring? Or in other words, how has nature and nurture played into how humans (in an otherwise “safe and secure” environment) experience feeling less than, or a need to have more than what is needed for basic survival?
In my opinion, this collective feeling of lack and dissatisfaction spans beyond the material realm. When we look to the past, we see how it has molded our current state of being. Our minds have been conditioned and our hearts have hardened. We live in an unstable world where many don’t feel safe to exist freely because they fear death, judgment, or failure. Societies are built upon corrupt foundations that seek profit over peace and trauma has been passed down over the years from generation to generation resulting in unhealthy social dynamics. Many are out here chasing necessities and barely making it by, but even the ones who have it all still struggle filling the same void. It’s a vicious loop that’s difficult to change, but not impossible. We have to break out of survival mode and breathe so we can start seeing things from a new perspective. We need to stop chasing illusions and focus on what fills our soul, for that will bring true joy. We also need to realize we’re more than enough as is, without all the bells and whistles.
How are societies different? For example, capitalistic societies trade differently than communists. Developed nations trade differently than developing nations. In your opinion, how does society shape a human’s experience and feelings of satisfaction?
I believe society is the structure from which it all stems. It’s the framework for everything we do and how we operate. Similar to a couple with a new child, they decide how they will raise them. Will the child suffer or prosper? What type of home do they want to create? Our daily actions are determined by our role in the system and most people aren’t satisfied with their current roles. They spend all their time doing things they have to do, not things they love to do. If the cycle continues long enough, the lines start to blur and it becomes who they are and all they know. That’s one of the main reasons why I left my job in the IT industry after 10 years and I’m much happier now.
With a specific focus on brain function, how has the brain and its dominion over the body and beliefs been impacted by the societal construct?
Imagine you spent your entire life alone in a cave and someone new suddenly appeared telling you there is more on the other side of the rock. Our brains have been programmed by our experiences and our experiences have been shaped by the society we live in. I like to think of it in terms of technology, where our brain is the computer and our consciousness is the software that enables it to run. Be mindful of the programs you install because just like a computer, we can run out of resources and become infected with viruses that are painful to clean. We know the power of belief is incredible and there are scientists and doctors still making fascinating discoveries to this day, such as neuroplasticity, which is the brains ability to rewire itself. I’m interested to see what they find next and if it alters our current understanding of the mind and human capabilities.
Do you think the way our society markets and advertises goods and services, has affected people’s feelings of satisfaction? Can you explain what you mean?
Absolutely, I do. Most companies will say or do anything to make a profit, even if it’s a lie and hurts the consumer. They don’t want you feeling like you have enough because they want you to need them or their product. Ads are specifically designed to exploit our deepest emotions. They focus on growth and numbers, not the individual. They will appear over and over until it’s burned into your subconscious mind because they want you to remember them forever. We must see beyond the illusions, honor our true worth, and stop relying on external objects for comfort.
How is the wiring of the brain, body, and beliefs shaped by marketing, language, and how humans trade?
We are what we consume, even if we try to fight it. The content we absorb on a daily basis changes our internal script and the language we use reinforces it. This eventually becomes a part of our personality and that influences the way we interact and trade with others. For this reason, it’s important to remain vigilant and practice self-discipline in pursuit of our dreams. I ask myself, “do you want to shape yourself or do you want to be shaped by others?”
I work in marketing so I’m very cognizant of this question. In your opinion, how do you think marketing professionals can be more responsible for how their advertising shapes humans’ health and experience of happiness overall?
It’s important to operate with intent and from a space of love, especially if you’re a marketing professional. I think of the “Golden Rule” which is to treat others how you want to be treated. They decide what type of message to spread and if their influence is positive or negative. They can help people or they can hurt them. How does their own work make them feel? What type of emotions does it invoke? If it doesn’t feel good, why? If they can answer those questions honestly, that’s a great starting point. We must stay diligent in this world where everything is connected and media is at our fingertips, for the benefit of all.
For you personally, if you have all your basic needs met, do you feel you have enough in life?
Speaking from experience, I can say yes. I don’t just feel it, I know it. I’ve been on both sides of the scale with most of my younger years spent seeking more, even though I didn’t need it. I was constantly on the move, jumping from one thing to the next, and never satisfied despite how much I obtained. Now, I’m the opposite and life is completely different. I faced myself and realized, none of that ever mattered. I’m happy when I wake up just because I get to breathe again and experience another day.
Okay, fantastic. Here is the main question of our interview: Can you share with our readers your “5 things we can each do to address the feeling of not having enough.” Please share a story or example for each. https://youtu.be/dqitNLF5vTI
1. Start with what I call “mirror work” or “shadow work” and go from there. How do you really feel about yourself deep down? When you look in the mirror, what do you see? Ask yourself why you feel unsatisfied and don’t run from the truth. If you’re patient and change your internal script, your external world will start to shift with it. I used to hate myself and it was reflected back at every turn, but once I started treating myself with love and compassion, life changing miracles started to unfold. I began to see everything from a new perspective and I realized I had more than enough the entire time.
2. When we return to the present moment, we often realize our feelings of lack were tied to illusions of the past or future. Allow nature to remind you how abundant life is and how much you really have, here and now. Step into the grass with nothing on your feet and feel the ground hugging your toes. Sink into the moment and breathe with the gentle breeze, allowing it to carry away your burdens. Look to the Sun and embrace its generous warmth as it melts away your fears. Smell a beautiful flower and dance with passion in the scent of joy. Pick a fruit from your favorite tree and savor every taste, holding gratitude for the experience. Focus on anything that brings you back to the present, which is where the real gift is.
3. Create a journal and start writing daily, especially when you feel like you don’t have enough. Be specific so you’ll understand when you read it later. Look for patterns and clues. You can learn from each entry and adjust when necessary. I think all the time and this helps me organize my mind and catch things I’d normally miss.
4. Surround yourself with people that love you and offer support because not everyone has your best interest in their heart. Don’t entertain jealousy, judgment, or any similar energy. You won’t make it very far if all the other crabs are trying to pull you back down into the bucket. My family tried everything to sabotage my success because I was a constant reminder that they could do better.
5. Express yourself authentically while helping others do the same and life becomes an adventure, not just something we do. Your heart will fill with love and you’ll be placed in serendipitous situations where magical things happen. I used to hide from the world because I didn’t feel good enough and I was terrified of being misunderstood, but that only led to loneliness and depression. The real fun began once I stepped out of my comfort zone and took off the mask.
Do you have any favorite books, podcasts, or resources that have inspired you to live with more joy in life?
I’ve listened to many podcasts and read countless books in my life and they all seem to appear with the right message at the perfect time. I wouldn’t recommend anything specific though because it’s all unique to each individual experience. In no particular order, some of my favorites are “Warrior of the Light” by Paulo Coelho, “Holes” by Louis Sachar, “Siddhartha” by Hermann Hesse, “Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself” by Dr. Joe Dispenza, “The 5 Second Rule” by Mel Robbins, and “The Alchemist” which is also by Paulo Coelho.
You are a person of great influence. If you could start a movement that would bring the most amount of good to the most amount of people, what would that be? You never know what your idea can trigger. 🙂
I believe we all have the ability to influence the world in great ways. Every action has a ripple effect that changes the course of events, even if we’re not directly aware at the time. That’s why I started “Seeds to Dreams” and continue to help others daily. It’s my purpose and it fuels the fire deep within my soul. I’ve received messages from people at random saying I saved their life or helped show them a new path. Even if I only reach 1 person, they might be able to reach millions. For anyone reading, share your presence. Be the change.
What is the best way for our readers to continue to follow your work online?
I’m only on TikTok and Instagram as “Seeds to Dreams” but the adventure has just begun. Follow me on either platform or write down my name for future reference. I’ll post updates as I continue to learn and grow.
This was very inspiring. Thank you so much for the time you spent on this. We wish you only continued success.
About The Interviewer: For 30 years, Drew Gerber has been inspiring those who want to change the world. Drew is the CEO of Wasabi Publicity, Inc., a full-service PR agency lauded by PR Week and Good Morning America. Wasabi Publicity, Inc. is a global marketing company that supports industry leaders, change agents, unconventional thinkers, companies and organizations that strive to make a difference. Whether it’s branding, traditional PR or social media marketing, every campaign is instilled with passion, creativity and brilliance to powerfully tell their clients’ story and amplify their intentions in the world.
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