Young Change Makers Promoting Climate Action: Why and How Gianna White Of March for Science NYC Is Helping To Change Our World
An Interview With Monica Sanders
Burnout is a real thing, learn when to take a break or your body will decide for you. Within the larger climate sphere, people feel the need to give everything — so burnout is fairly common. It’s a bit ironic honestly, we spend so much time preaching about not overburdening our planet but we forget to extend that same courtesy to ourselves.
We are standing at a critical juncture in our fight against climate change, and it is heartening to see young leaders rising to this enormous challenge. Across the globe, they are initiating change, voicing their concerns, and catalyzing action toward sustainable solutions for our planet. These young change-makers are not just the future; they are the driving force of the present. As part of this series, I had the pleasure of interviewing Gianna White.
Gianna White is a dedicated climate activist and sustainability scientist based in the northeastern United States. With a passion for building sustainable cities and promoting social justice, she has been actively involved in climate advocacy since the age of 18. Gianna’s work revolves around bridging the gap between science, policy, and social equity, emphasizing the intersection of urban living and climate justice.
Thank you so much for joining us in this interview series! Before we dig in, our readers would like to get to know you a bit. Can you tell us a bit about how you grew up?
I was raised in Elizabeth, New Jersey, an urban city with a wide range of cultures, languages, and traditions. This rich tapestry of cultural backgrounds allowed me to experience a truly multicultural community during my formative years. It was in this diverse environment that I not only gained a deep appreciation for my own culture but also had the opportunity to learn from and connect with people from various walks of life. My upbringing instilled in me a profound respect for diversity and a keen interest in understanding and celebrating the differences that make each individual and community unique.
Is there a particular book or organization that made a significant impact on you growing up? Can you share a story or explain why it resonated with you so much?
I was a really big bookworm growing up; When I was around 6 years old, I was introduced to one of my favorite book series Calvin and Hobbes. It had all the essential parts of a good story: a rebellious main character, philosophical questions, and a stuffed animal that came to life. Calvin and Hobbes is a collection of comic strips that follows the adventures of Calvin, a six-year-old with a huge imagination, and Hobbes, his best friend who’s also a stuffed tiger.
Independent of the story I think it was one of the series that helped shape my relationship to books. I learned about the art of collecting a book series, I learned that comic books are a unique and completely valid form of literature, and I learned how to have fun reading. I loved reading and being able to read a book with a main character that was my age, was great for my sense of autonomy. Years later, I’m still influenced by the series in a lot of ways — the most obvious being that I have my own feline sidekick who shares a name with a philosopher. My cat Socrates and I could (potentially) star in a spin-off or have our own comic strip one day!
How do you define “Making A Difference”? Can you explain what you mean or give an example?
Making a difference fundamentally revolves around instigating change, irrespective of its scale. By just existing, every person has the power to have an impact on their environment. Octavia Butler’s insightful quote “[a]ll that you touch you change, all that you change changes you,” beautifully illustrates this idea. It highlights the fact that all of our interactions and efforts, no matter how small or large, have an impact not only on how the environment around us is changed but also on how we as individuals grow and evolve.
Ok super. Let’s now jump to the main part of our interview. You are currently working on promoting climate action. Can you tell us a bit about what you and your organization are trying to change in our world today?
I’m the Operations Director for March for Science NYC (MFS NYC), a satellite of the larger March for Science movement. We’re a non-profit formed by the greater science community to promote and advocate for: open access to scientific information, human & environmental rights, and the use of science for the common good and in the preservation of an informed democracy. March for Science NYC is dedicated to fostering and endorsing resolute political action, spanning from grassroots initiatives to global campaigns, in our steadfast pursuit of inclusive climate justice. A substantial portion of our annual program and event offerings revolve around climate-related activities, including workshops, advocacy for climate policies, and the advancement of climate education within the New York Community. Our commitment to civic engagement in STEM extends to educating voters on the vital intersection of science and advocacy, achieved through informative panels and forums that showcase the insights of local elected officials, scientists, and community leaders. Furthermore, we champion science communication by hosting comprehensive science summits and seminars, complemented by more informal yet engaging platforms such as Instagram Live sessions and Twitch streams. Our mission is to empower individuals to harness the power of science in their advocacy efforts, bridging the gap between science and society through a multifaceted approach to engagement and education.
In addition to my activism, I’m currently pursuing my graduate studies, focusing on the examination of sustainable systems through an equitable perspective. I’m obsessed with systems analysis and emergent strategy in particular. Emergent strategy is a concept that keenly observes how seemingly minor actions and connections can give rise to intricate systems and patterns, ultimately evolving into ecosystems and societies. For me, emergent strategy represents a powerful tool for intentionally driving change, allowing us to cultivate the capacity to manifest the fair and liberated world we aspire to create.
Can you tell us the backstory about what inspired you to originally feel passionate about this cause? How old were you when you made this decision?
I can vividly recall the moment when I first became aware of climate change and the existential gravity it carries. I was 15 years old, it was my sophomore year of high school, and my English teacher gave us an assignment: deliver a 10-minute presentation on any topic of your choice, and I chose climate change. As I delved into research for this presentation, I was confronted with overwhelming and, frankly, alarming evidence. There was one fact in particular that resonated with me. I discovered that pollution and our excessive reliance on fossil fuels contribute to health issues like asthma. This hit close to home, as I have a younger sibling who suffers from asthma, and the more I learned about environmental injustice and how it impacted communities like mine, the more I wanted to do something about it.
It’s a bit odd but I think it was just the sinisterness of it all that really got to me. Here was something so intrinsically intertwined with our ecosystem, with our way of life, with everything. It left me deeply unsettled. And beyond that I think the emotion that really spurred me to action was not born of some moral outrage but rather genuine annoyance at what I was discovering. It was the epitome of senseless suffering. This is where much of my passion for addressing climate change stems from — the sheer senselessness of it all. There’s no rational justification for the extent of suffering and the rapidity at which it unfolds.
Many of us have ideas, dreams, and passions, but never manifest them. We don’t always get up and just do it. But you did. Was there an “Aha Moment” that made you decide that you were actually going to step up and do it? What was that final trigger?
I think there were two real moments when I committed to climate and my role in helping fight climate change. The first was when I started working with advocacy organizations like March for Science and Sunrise Movement, which wasn’t a particularly big choice on my end. I liked the work I was doing; I liked the people I was working with, and to borrow a few words from Alice Walker, “[a]ctivism is my rent for living on the planet.” Activism is my love language, it’s my way of saying thank you to my community.
The second moment came later and proved to be more challenging and introspective for me. As I said earlier, I became aware of the climate crisis at a pretty young age, and I knew that I wanted to do something about it. I just wasn’t sure how. By the time I turned 18 and began applying to college, I had settled on pursuing a degree in computer engineering. My plan was to graduate and contribute to building better climate models. But as I immersed myself in college life, joined MFS NYC, and took several climate science courses, I couldn’t shake the feeling that I somehow still wasn’t doing the work I needed to do. Part of the reason why I was so set on computer engineering was because it came with a safety net. Being a first-generation college student, I sought safety and financial stability. I wanted a major that had the potential to earn a six-figure income after graduation or that allowed me to apply to any company I wanted. I wanted to be an engineer because it was difficult and steeped in merit, and I wanted my family to be proud of me.
But the frustrating thing about finding your passion is that it will haunt you regardless of the other paths you seek out. I wanted to do something beyond climate modeling and beyond climate activism. I wanted to be a voice for my community and communities like mine at the logistical level. I wanted to contribute to holistic research to establish better environmental protections for urban environments. Ultimately, my goal is to help build more sustainable cities and make sure no one is left behind in the process. So, it’s not a surprise that at the end of my freshman year, I switched my major to Sustainable Urban Environments; I relinquished my safety net as well as forfeited a few scholarships in the process. In the end, I’d say it was more than worth it. This is a cause I’m more than happy to dedicate my life to, and in hindsight, it was inevitable.
What are some of the things you did, or steps you took to get started?
I got started by listening. I listened to other activists to better understand organizing, the many ways it can take shape, and its long history in the U.S. This educational journey also showed me the intricate connections between various social justice movements, revealing how the struggles for racial equity, labor justice, and social justice are inextricably intertwined with the broader fight for climate justice.
I listened to experts and scientists who have amassed decades of peer-reviewed evidence and research that meticulously outlines the systems driving the climate crisis and offer invaluable guidance on the most effective strategies to deconstruct and reform these systems.
I listened to what others thought would come next. And I listened to their stories about the future; some of which were dark and dystopian and inspired me to take action through fear; others were fueled by solar power and laughter and inspired me to act out of hope. I listened to learn and gather perspectives that would help me shape my own visions for the future.
Can you share a story about the funniest mistake you made when you were first starting? Can you tell us what lesson or takeaway you learned from that?
I don’t know if I’d say this is funny per se, but it is definitely something I did. When I first started as an organizer I had no idea what I was supposed to be doing. We’d hold weekly meetings and I’d have no idea what other people were talking about or what they needed me to contribute. I was truly just there for the vibes — no thoughts, head empty.
The takeaway here is that it’s okay to ask questions. As I said earlier, listening is a very important skill both in activism and in science but asking questions is equally important. And most of the time the two feed into each other so don’t be afraid to do either.
None of us can be successful without some help along the way. Did you have mentors or cheerleaders who helped you to succeed? Can you tell us a story about their influence?
My family and friends have and always will be the reason I’m able to do what I do; they are the reason I do what I do. I’ve been lucky enough to have many different mentors to guide me through different parts of my journey. I’ve had mentors in my academic journey and in my activist journey, and plenty who have helped me in my overall life journey.
I think the most essential part about mentoring is finding someone whose mentoring style suits the way that you want to be mentored. For me personally, I’ve always found it great to have cheerleaders whose first instinct is to voice their support for you. The best example I can think of is when a mentor once sent me a recommendation letter he had composed on my behalf; I still keep it saved on my desktop. I read it whenever I feel unqualified for a new opportunity, it’s a huge confidence booster. I am immensely grateful to Omar for his unwavering support, and his mentorship has been nothing short of exceptional.
Without saying specific names, can you tell us a story about a particular individual who was impacted or helped by your cause?
I think one of the things MFS NYC does best is foster and build community. Community within academia and STEM fields, community within NYC, and community within the global struggle for a sustainable future. I can think of a few people (myself included) who found like-minded individuals who not only became collaborators but also friends, inspiring and supporting each other in our shared commitment to building a more sustainable and just future.
Are there three things the community/society/politicians can do to help you address the root of the problem you are trying to solve?
1) Vote. Vote for politicians and officials who prioritize climate action, vote out the ones who don’t, and fight to restore the right to vote for those who have been unjustly disenfranchised. And for those who are feeling deeply uninspired this election cycle and are tired of hearing people say “Go vote”, I encourage you to consider joining/donating to a local advocacy group. In my experience, engaging with these organizations not only contributes to building political autonomy but also strengthens our ability to effect change at the grassroots level.
Many Americans are disillusioned about the impact of their vote in presidential or state-level elections, but it’s important to recognize that there are crucial positions, like city council, sheriff, and board of education, where your vote truly can make a substantial difference in shaping your community. So, while I won’t attempt to dissuade you from any beliefs you may hold, I do urge you to exercise your vote, especially in these local elections, where your voice can have a direct and meaningful impact.
2) The climate crisis is the culmination of deep structural issues. Achieving climate justice doesn’t just rely on stopping the use of fossil fuels — the phrase “climate justice is social justice” should be taken literally — to reach net zero we’ll need comprehensive systemic changes that address not only emissions reductions but also equitable access to clean energy, sustainable land use, and a just transition for marginalized communities. This means prioritizing policies and initiatives that not only mitigate the impacts of climate change but also promote economic, racial, and environmental justice for all.
3) Build a community where you can, there is so much power in it. The climate crisis is no match for a united global community of individuals who are determined to protect their communities by any means necessary. Contribute what you’re able to, whenever possible, and always remember that even the smallest of efforts are vital components of a broader global struggle for progress.
Fantastic. Here is the main question of the interview. What are your “5 things I wish someone told me when I first started” and why?
1. Showing up is most of the battle. This is especially important at the local level, having people show up to town halls, country-level elections, and community events, all of it is essential. Show up and share your support when you can.
2. The status quo limits the scope of the imagination. There are days and weeks when I cannot imagine a future where we get right; a future where we curb our emissions and manage to stay below 1.5 °C. Right now it may be easier to imagine an end to the planet than an end to the fossil fuel economy, but the phenomenal thing about reality is that it is not limited by what you think is possible. To borrow a few words from Angela Davis “[o]ptimism is an absolute necessity, even if it’s only optimism of the will, as Gramsci said, and pessimism of the intellect.”
3. You are not going to solve climate change. Climate justice is a collective effort, and the beauty of collectivism is not having to shoulder weight on your own. So no, while you (the individual) won’t solve the climate crisis, we (the collective) definitely will 😊
4. Burnout is a real thing, learn when to take a break or your body will decide for you. Within the larger climate sphere, people feel the need to give everything — so burnout is fairly common. It’s a bit ironic honestly, we spend so much time preaching about not overburdening our planet but we forget to extend that same courtesy to ourselves.
5. 90% of advocacy is sitting in meetings. I’ve led a march through the streets of NYC and led chants calling for climate action but that’s not what makes me an activist. A significant aspect of activism lies in the less visible but equally crucial work of strategizing, collaborating, and advocating for change within the confines of meetings and discussions.
If you could tell other young people one thing about why they should consider making a positive impact on our environment or society, like you, what would you tell them?
It’s a bit frustrating honestly; I’m 23 and it feels like my generation drew the short straw in a lot of ways. But we only have one planet. We’re living through the Anthropocene and we owe it to ourselves and each other to try and get it right this time around.
Is there a person in the world, or in the US with whom you would like to have a private breakfast or lunch with, and why? He or she might just see this, especially if we tag them. 🙂
Angela Davis or Mariame Kaba. They’re both activists that I’ve learned a lot from, and beyond advocating for civil rights broadly they’ve both written about how to organize effectively and establish mutual aid systems. Their extensive knowledge and expertise in these areas resonate with my own passion for creating sustainable and equitable change.
How can our readers follow you online?
Follow me on LinkedIn & Instagram
Follow MFS NYC on Facebook & Instagram or find your own local March for Science chapter here!
This was very meaningful, thank you so much. We wish you only continued success on your great work!
About the Interviewer: Monica Sanders JD, LL.M, is the founder of “The Undivide Project”, an organization dedicated to creating climate resilience in underserved communities using good tech and the power of the Internet. She holds faculty roles at the Georgetown University Law Center and the Tulane University Disaster Resilience Leadership Academy. Professor Sanders also serves on several UN agency working groups. As an attorney, Monica has held senior roles in all three branches of government, private industry, and nonprofits. In her previous life, she was a journalist for seven years and the recipient of several awards, including an Emmy. Now the New Orleans native spends her time in solidarity with and championing change for those on the frontlines of climate change and digital divestment. Learn more about how to join her at: www.theundivideproject.org
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